Friday, 29 May 2009

Learning Thai through songs

I thought this week we'd look at a couple of Thai songs and have a go at translating the meaning.
Everyone knows how much Thais like their songs about heartbreak, jealously and being in love. Furthermore, singing karaoke thai (especially without english translations) has to be one of the best ways of improving your reading.
So perhaps it's apt to start this section off with a love triangle song, from a very popular artist at the moment 'Prik Thai'. The song is called 'รักสามเศร้า' ('rak saam sao') basically 'love triangle'.
Rather than fill the blog space with the lyrics and translations, for your convenience please find it here

Thursday, 21 May 2009

Which are the best schools in Thailand to learn Thai?

This is usually thrown up a lot on the forums. So I'd thought I'd provide a concise summary of the
major places to study the Thai language, together with some opinions:

1.)  Walen School of Thai.  A major selling point for this school is a one years education visa included in the 29,000 baht price.  Mixed reviews on this one, as the years visa price does include 3 month renewals of 1,900 baht.  As far as the teaching goes no whiteboards are used, for the basic levels a lot of emphasis is placed on learning from the books given.  They use the Calan method of teaching adapted from English to Thai.  They have a lot of young teachers and for 29,000 for 180 lessons they are definitely one of the cheaper schools.

2.) Nisa.  This language school in Sathorn have good reviews in terms of the teachers, materials provided and learning atmosphere.  Certainly worth considering for beginners and intermediates, but no program or much material for advanced learners.  Also they have well qualified teachers with lots of experience in teaching foreigners thai.  10 week course, 3 hours a day and offer small group teaching or even private tuition.

3.) Chulangkorn University. Perhaps the most expensive and intensive place to learn Thai.  They really require a major commitment and do 20 day and 25 day courses for 20,000 and 25,000 which is very expensive.  Their beginner and intermediate courses are excellent, but the advanced can be a bit iffy at best.  Definitely well suited to people who want to learn Thai the academic way.

4.) Payap Univerisy.  Based in Chaing Mai , the program consitst of 2 x 1.5 hour classes each morning.  They have intensive courses designed to get your reading, writing and listening up to scratch.  After about 6 months of study, your level should be sufficient enough to teach yourself.  Again they dont really cater towards the really advances learners, and people perhaps wanting to take the P6 exam.  On a side note Chaing Mai University also offer a years learning program, but again aimed at the academics.  

5.) A.U.A  They offer an interesting approach to learning in 15 level stages.  Usually in the classrooms you get two teachers, with one holding up boards and the other acting.  For beginners they are not ideal, as a lot will pass them buy.  The teachers dont bother to make corrections for beginners try to speak, the emphasis is just on getting the learners to speak in the first place.  For intermediates it's better, and can be a lot of fun.  Reading and writing is not introduced until 800-1000 hours of listening has been had. 

6.) Private Tutor.  Although this can be a very expensive option, it's definitely advisable if you  want to get your Thai up to scratch in a short space of time.  Generally private tutors charge anyway between 250 and 500 baht an hour.  Possibly more in certain parts of BKK and less upcountry.


Friday, 15 May 2009

Thai Alphabet


Many beginners will be put off from learning written Thai, because at first it does seem daunting
trying to remember all 44 characters. But it can be made easier visualizing each character with images. When I was learning I bought one of those kids tables which had all the pictures on the face of the table together with each Thai Character. With visual aids I was able to learn the thai alphabet much faster than if I had gone on one of those sites where you click and play the sound of each character. But, when I started I didnt even bother will all 44. I just took note of what the common ones I saw on sign street streets, in newspapers and shop fronts copied those down and learnt them. You will find some alphabet characters such as ฏ(to pa-tak or goad) and ฎ (d0-cha-da or headress).

Once you have the alphabet down pat, the fun begins with the vowels sounds sara a, sara e, sara u. With these its best to do out a chart obtainable from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_alphabet
and go through the pairing sounds.

Im attaching a picture of a kids table I learnt from. Also good for learning the alphabet and building up your vocabulary is Manee and Friends which you can find at www.learningthai.com

Wednesday, 13 May 2009

Something fun....

I was going through my Thai MSN messenger contacts today, and thought it might be a bit different to translate their thai language tag lines. Here are just three to get on with:

1.)
คิดถึง...ใครสักคน -----> คิดถึง (kid tueng) is perhaps the most over used phrase in thai. But you become immediately endearing to the thais if you say it in the right way. 'Kid tueng' means 'I miss you', but the d is more of a t sound and the tueng is said with a higher ending intonation. The way i say this is to try and imitate the thai girls, and try with the saying the tueng with your tongue slightly raised. ใครสักคน translates to 'someone or 'somebody'. So putting the two together we have i miss someone/somebody

2.)
ไม่อยู่ ไปเรียนค้ะ------> ไม่อยู่ (mai yoo) The first three characters are very important as they mean 'no', and indicate it's said with a flat tone with the ่, if it was ไหม่ then it would mean 'new' and said differently. But as this is a whole new can of worms, i'll go into this in more detail in later posts.
ไม่อยู่ ('mai yoo') literally means 'not here' and adding 'ไปเรียนค้ะ' (pai rien ka= go to learn) we get 'I'm not here, I go learn', which is ugly so I prefer a looser translation of 'I'm not here, I've gone to study '. The ค้ะ' ('Ka') on the end indicates a girl is typing it.

3.)
ห้วหินทริป -------------> nice and easy one. You may have seen ห้วหิน on road signs before, it's Hua Hin a popular place for thais and farang alike, beach town resort a couple of hours from bangkok. You will notice that Thais will incorporate english loan words a lot into the writing and the last part is an example of this (it confused the hell out of me when i was first learning, as i was always looking for Thai vocab words): ทริป = 'Trip'. So simply we have 'Hua Hin trip.'
The H is hardly emphasised, and we get a raised intonation on the 'ua', and the hin part has no emphasis on it and said in a normal flat tone.

that's the first thai language lesson for today, ill try and do some more this week.
If you have any MSN/Yahoo/Skype taglines you want to submit please feel free, and Ill post the ones I feel have the most benefit to learners.






Starting out

If you are a complete beginner, for online resources these are some of the best sites I've found
to date. If you have any others please feel free to share:

These websites are offer some good starting points. Some are dictionary english-thai, thai-english websites. Lexitron is widely used from beginners-advanced learners. Others are great for getting a handle on the tones and intonation. Which most people have the greatest difficulty with.

In terms of books, some of the below should be in every serious learners collections:
(Also books by the same author include the intermediate and advanced levels, Speak Thai like a Thai and the one below, Colloquial Thai:)

Or if you like Audio Language Books these ones are worth getting:

Teach Youself Thai Conversation by David Smyth
Spoken Word Thai by Living Language

And also select from the multutude of free podcasts there are available online.

Also for the Advanced readers books like:
หล้กภาษาไทย by กําช้ย ทองหล่อ --very good if you're interested in the etymology of Thai.

Some of my two personal favourite blogger's on the thai language:

Stu Jay Raj's blog (an amazing guy who speaks over 15 languages) and is a great authority on the Thai to boot: http://stujay.blogspot.com

These are all I can think of for the moment, but I'm sure you'll be able to help me in adding more.




Hello welcome to my Thai blog!

When I was first starting to learn Thai I wasn't aware of the multitude of resources found on the internet for improving your proficiency in Thai. It was only after I had developed my Thai language skills, up to a certain level, that I found helpful language forums such as thaivisa.com. The various members on the language forum were more than helpful in answering my endless number of questions concerning Thai. I then found that some of them had their own blogging sites catering generally towards the more advanced reader. I therefore decided to set up something aimed at all levels that would hopefully be conducive to a relaxed learning atmosphere, where people wouldnt be scared of posting questions no matter how rudimentary they may seem.
So I hope you will find this blog useful on some level, and whilst I do not proclaim to be an expert in thai (far from it, i would say I'm intermediate at best) I hope we can all learn from each other.
I shall try and keep the blog updated as often as I can, please bear with me as I can't continue resisting getting into this whole blogging sphere any longer.
Thank you for stopping by.